Forecast Discussions mentioning "ACARS", "MDCRS", "AIRCRAFT", "TAMDAR", or "AMDAR" received at FSL on 08/09/08


SOUTHWEST CALIFORNIA AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LOS ANGELES/OXNARD CA
210 PM PDT FRI AUG 8 2008 .SHORT TERM... MARINE LAYER NEAR 1000 OVER LAX AND ABOUT 1800 FEET OVER VANDENBERG. CURRENT SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWS VERY FEW CLOUDS SOUTH OF POINT CONCEPTION AND A DECENT STRATUS FIELD OFF OF THE CENTRAL CALIFORNIA COAST. THE NAM DOES SHOW A DECENT EDDY TONIGHT AND HINTS AT SOME LOW CLOUDS SLIPPING INTO THE VALLEYS OVERNIGHT...BUT EDDY WAS OVER FORECAST LAST NIGHT AND SUSPECT IT IS OVERFORECASTING AGAIN TONIGHT. KEPT LOW CLOUDS ONLY INTO L.A. COUNTY COASTS AND THEN THE BEACHES OF VENTURA COUNTY. WRF SHOW WEAK OFFSHORE TRENDS BOTH SUN AND MON MORNING AND WITH MOST OTHER SYNOPTIC PARAMETERS REMAINING ABOUT THE SAME FEEL THE MARINE CLOUDS WILL STAY SIMILAR TO CURRENT STRATUS PATTERN WITH GOOD CONVERGE IN THE CENTRAL COAST AND SANTA YNEZ VLY BUT THE COVERAGE LIMITED TO MOSTLY THE L.A. COUNTY COASTS. ADDITIONALLY THE LOW CLOUDS WILL BE LATE TO FORM OVER L.A. COUNTY. A FEW AFTERNOON CU POPPING UP NEAR WRIGHTWOOD BUT THE MAIN AXIS OF CONVECTION IS ALONG THE EAST FACING SLOPES OF THE SAN JACINTOS AND SAN BERNARDINO MOUNTAINS. THIS BAND WILL MOVE MOVE SLIGHTLY TO THE EAST EVERYDAY THROUGH MONDAY AND THUNDERSTORMS ARE NOT A THREAT OVER THE SHORT TERM. TEMPERATURES WILL BE VERY SIMILAR EACH DAY PERHAPS A DEGREE OR TWO OF WARMING ON THE COASTAL INLAND SECTIONS AS THE ONSHORE PUSH IS A LITTLE WEAKER EACH DAY. ALL OTHER PARAMETERS STAY ABOUT THE SAME. .LONG TERM... GFS ENSEMBLES REALLY FALL APART BY WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON WITH A LARGE VARIANCE BOTH WITH THE FOUR CORNERS HIGH AS WELL AS A PAC WEST TROF. AS A RESULT DID NOT MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE THURSDAY FORECAST ALTHOUGH THE ONLY TWO CONCERNS ARE HOW DEEP WILL THE MARINE LAYER BE AND WILL THERE BE MONSOON CONVECTION. THE OFFICIAL GFS HINTS AT A LITTLE CONVECTION BUT HALF OF THE ENSEMBLE PERMUTATIONS KEEP THE FLOW DRY. BOTH THE TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY LOOK VERY SIMILAR TO THE SHORT TERM DAYS. MONSOON FLOW LOOKS LIKE IT WILL BE KEPT TO THE EAST. HGTS SEEM HIGH ENOUGH TO KEEP THE MARINE LAYER SMOOSHED OUT OF THE VALLEYS EXCEPT THE SANTA YNEZ. THE FLOW OVER THE OUTER WATERS DOES NOT LOOK STRONG ENOUGH TO SPIN UP MUCH OF AN EDDY. TEMPS WILL BE NEAR NORMAL MAYBE A FEW DEGREES ABOVE NORMS DURING THE AFTERNOON INLAND. && .AVIATION... 08/2000Z LATEST AMDAR SOUNDING NEAR KLAX INDICATED MARINE LAYER NEAR 900 FT DEEP TODAY. LOW CLOUDS HAVE SCOURED OUT EARLIER SOUTH OF POINT CONCEPTION...WHILE STRATUS JUST OFF THE CENTRAL COAST THIS AFTERNOON. EXPECT A RETURN OF IFR CIGS WITH LOCAL LIFR CIGS ACROSS CENTRAL COAST BETWEEN 01-04 THIS EVENING. AREAS S OF POINT CONCEPTION...MODERATE CONFIDENCE THAT MVFR CIGS WILL DEVELOP AFTER 06Z THIS EVENING ACROSS LA COUNTY COAST AND PUSH NORTHWARD INTO VENTURA COUNTY BY 09Z. LOW TO MODERATE CONFIDENCE THAT PATCHY STRATUS WILL REACH LA/VTU VALLEYS OVERNIGHT. KLAX...EXPECT VFR CONDS THROUGH THIS EVENING WITH MVFR CIGS LIKELY AFTER 06Z THROUGH MID-MORNING HOURS. KBUR...EXPECT VFR CONDS THROUGH OVERNIGHT HOURS. A 20 PERCENT CHANCE OF CIGS AROUND 12Z. && .LOX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY (SEE LAXMWWLOX). && $$ PUBLIC...RORKE AVIATION...KAPLAN WWW.WEATHER.GOV/LOSANGELES
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS SAN DIEGO CA
230 PM PDT FRI AUG 8 2008 .SYNOPSIS...LINGERING MID LEVEL MOISTURE WILL CAUSE ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS IN THE MOUNTAINS AND DESERTS DURING THE AFTERNOONS TODAY AND SATURDAY. THE MARINE LAYER AND ONSHORE FLOW WILL BRING AREAS OF COASTAL LOW CLOUDS AND FOG DURING THE NIGHTS AND MORNINGS...EXTENDING LOCALLY INLAND. MOISTURE IN SOUTHEAST FLOW ALOFT WILL RETURN TOWARD THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK BRINING A RENEWED CHANCE OF THUNDERSTORMS...MAINLY OVER THE MOUNTAINS DURING THE AFTERNOONS. && .DISCUSSION...FOR SOUTHWEST CALIFORNIA INCLUDING SAN DIEGO... ORANGE...SOUTHWEST SAN BERNARDINO AND WEST RIVERSIDE COUNTIES. .SHORT TERM (REMAINDER OF TODAY-MON)...SKIES WERE MOSTLY CLEAR THIS MORNING EXCEPT FOR AREAS OF STRATUS ALONG THE COAST. CU BEGAN FORMING OVER THE MOUNTAINS BY LATE MORNING WITH ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS DEVELOPING SHORTLY AFTER. EARLY AFTERNOON ACARS SOUNDINGS INDICATED AN INVERSION BASED NEAR 1200 FT WITH WEAK SLY WINDS THROUGH THE MID LEVELS. ONSHORE GRADIENTS WITH ABOUT 4 MB SAN-IPL. BROAD UPPER LEVEL HIGH PRESSURE WILL REMAIN OVER THE SW AS A TROUGH MOVES PAST FAR TO THE N. THIS PASSING TROUGH WILL BRING DRIER SW FLOW ALOFT FOR GRADUALLY DECREASING MID LEVEL MOISTURE. HOWEVER...THERE WILL STILL BE ENOUGH MOISTURE AND INSTABILITY FOR POSSIBLE THUNDERSTORMS DURING THE AFTERNOONS TODAY AND SAT...MAINLY OVER THE MOUNTAINS WITH A SMALLER CHANCE IN THE DESERTS. LITTLE CHANGE IS EXPECTED IN THE MARINE LAYER DEPTH WITH AREAS OF LOW CLOUDS AND FOG IN THE COASTAL SECTIONS AND WRN SAN DIEGO INLAND VALLEYS DURING THE NIGHTS AND MORNINGS. TEMPS WILL REMAIN NEAR SEASONAL WITH MINOR DAY TO DAY CHANGES. && .LONG TERM (TUE-FRI)...SW CA WILL REMAIN ON THE FRINGES OF GREATER MOISTURE TO THE SE. MODELS...ESPECIALLY THE GFS...INDICATE A RETURN OF MODERATE MID LEVEL MOISTURE BY MID WEEK FOR SMALL CHANCES OF THUNDERSTORMS. THE THUNDERSTORMS SHOULD MOSTLY BE CONFINED TO THE MOUNTAINS DURING THE AFTERNOONS...POSSIBLY DRIFTING INTO THE DESERTS. NOT A LOT OF CHANGE EXPECTED IN TEMPS AND THE MARINE LAYER. && .AVIATION... 072145Z...PULSE TYPE THUNDERSTORMS...FORMING AND DISSIPATING WITHIN AN HOUR...ARE FORMING A SCATTERED LINE FROM SOUTH OF BARSTOW TO JACUMBA WHICH BECOMES MORE BROKEN IN COVERAGE OVER THE MOUNTAINS OF NORTHERN BAJA CALIFORNIA. CUMULONIMBUS TOPS MOSTLY TO FL350 WITH ISOLATED TO FL450 AND BASES AROUND FL080. TRIGGER TEMPERATURES SHOULD NO LONGER BE REACHED AFTER 0200 UTC BUT INTERACTION OF DOWNDRAFTS MAY CONTINUE ISOLATED CUMULONIMBUS UNTIL 0400 UTC. AFTER WHICH MAIN AVIATION CONCERN WILL SWITCH BACK TO THE COASTAL PLAIN AND ADJACENT WATERS. MARINE LAYER DEPTH WILL SHRINK SLIGHTLY TONIGHT SO STRATUS TOPS/BASES EXPECTED TO BE ABOUT 200 FEET LOWER...WITH BROKEN TO OVERCAST STRATUS LAYER BETWEEN FL005-FL012 FORMING BY 0600 UTC OVER WATER AND PUSHING INLAND 10 MILES BY 1000 UTC. THIS WILL BRING LOWER VISIBILITY TO KCRQ AND OTHER COASTAL MESA LOCATIONS LATE SATURDAY MORNING...BETWEEN 2-4 SM. OTHERWISE STRATUS LAYER EXPECTED TO SCATTER OUT AROUND THE SAME TIME SATURDAY MORNING...1630 UTC. && .SGX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...NONE. && $$ PUBLIC...ATKIN AVIATION...BALFOUR
SOUTHWEST CALIFORNIA AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED
NWS LOS ANGELES/OXNARD CA
145 PM PDT FRI AUG 8 2008 UPDATED AVIATION SECTION .SHORT TERM (TODAY-SUNDAY)...MARINE LAYER CONTINUES TO STRUGGLE TO FORM SOUTH OF POINT CONCEPTION WHERE WARMER OCEAN TEMPERATURES EXIST. A FEW PATCHES OF STRATUS EXIST SOUTH OF POINT CONCEPTION...BUT OVERALL MOSTLY CLEAR CONDITIONS CONTINUE TO PERSIST. NORTH OF POINT CONCEPTION...MARINE LAYER CONTINUES TO BE WELL-ESTABLISHED PUSHING INTO THE CENTRAL COAST...AND SANTA YNEZ AND SALINAS RIVER VALLEYS. WITH MODELS PERFORMING POORLY WITH MARINE LAYER MOISTURE SOUTH OF POINT CONCEPTION...PACKAGE CONTINUES TO BACK OFF MARINE LAYER PUSHING NORTH OF POINT MUGU THROUGH THE WEEKEND. NAM-WRF CONTINUE TO FORM A FAIRLY DECENT EDDY CIRCULATION THIS MORNING. YET THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF ANY CIRCULATION BEING PRESENT AS WINDS AT KSAN AND KSDB REMAIN WEST...AND WINDS ALONG THE EXTREME SOUTHWESTERN CALIFORNIA COAST HAVE NO REFLECTION OF AN EDDY CIRCULATION FORMING. WITH CURRENT PACKAGE...LOW CONFIDENCE EXISTS SOUTH OF POINT CONCEPTION...SO PACKAGE LEANS TOWARD LITTLE COVERAGE SOUTH OF POINT CONCEPTION...WITH HIGHER CONFIDENCE NORTH OF POINT CONCEPTION. WITH WARMER OCEAN TEMPERATURES AND LITTLE MARINE LAYER...WARMER TEMPERATURES SHOULD PERSIST FOR TODAY. PACKAGE TRENDS GENERALLY HIGHER THAN MOS GUIDANCE FOR MOST AREAS SOUTH OF POINT CONCEPTION...WHILE KEEPING THE CENTRAL COAST PERSISTENT WITH YESTERDAYS TEMPERATURES. HOWEVER...SLIGHTLY COOLER CONDITIONS SHOULD OCCUR TODAY. SOME MINOR DIFFERENCES START TO OCCUR TONIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY NIGHT BETWEEN THE GFS...UKMET...AND NAM-WRF AS A WEAK BOUNDARY WITH NORTHEASTERN PACIFIC CUTOFF TROUGH SLOSHES SOUTH OVER THE CENTRAL COAST. FROM THE LATEST MODIS FOG PRODUCT IMAGERY AT 06Z FRIDAY...THE BOUNDARY THE GFS AND UKMET ARE PICKING UP ON IS LOCATED STRETCHES FROM 40 N AND 128 W SOUTHWEST TO ABOUT 33 N AND 131 W. GFS AND UKMET START SCOURING THE MARINE LAYER TONIGHT AS THE DYING BOUNDARY PUSHES SOUTH ALONG THE CENTRAL COAST...WHILE THE NAM-WRF THINKS THE STRONGER FEATURE MAY BE STILL UPSTREAM FOR SATURDAY NIGHT AND SUNDAY. WITH THE NAM-WRF USUALLY A BETTER MODELER OF CUTOFF SYSTEM...THE NAM-WRF SOLUTION MAY BE THE BETTER CHOICE. PACKAGE BROAD BRUSHES THIS ISSUE FOR NOW...KEEPING TONIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY MORNING WITH A MARINE PRESENCE ALONG THE CENTRAL COAST. .LONG TERM (MONDAY-THURSDAY)...WITH A GENERAL SOUTHWEST FLOW ALOFT AND RIDGE ESTABLISHING FOR NEXT WEEK...A MARINE LAYER REGIME AT THE COASTAL AREAS WILL PERSIST...MOSTLY CLEAR CONDITIONS CONTINUING INLAND AND ACROSS THE INTERIOR. MODELS CONTINUE TO HINT AT A WINDOW FOR AN INCREASE IN MONSOONAL MOISTURE FOR MIDWEEK NEXT...BUT TIMING STILL REMAINS UNCERTAIN AT THIS TIME. && .AVIATION...08/2030Z LATEST AMDAR SOUNDING NEAR KLAX INDICATED MARINE LAYER NEAR 900 FT DEEP TODAY. LOW CLOUDS HAVE SCOURED OUT EARLIER SOUTH OF POINT CONCEPTION...WHILE STRATUS JUST OFF THE CENTRAL COAST THIS AFTERNOON. EXPECT A RETURN OF IFR CIGS WITH LOCAL LIFR CIGS ACROSS CENTRAL COAST BETWEEN 01-04Z THIS EVENING. AREAS S OF POINT CONCEPTION...MODERATE CONFIDENCE THAT MVFR CIGS WILL DEVELOP AFTER 06Z THIS EVENING ACROSS LA COUNTY COAST AND PUSH NORTHWARD INTO VENTURA COUNTY BY 09Z. LOW TO MODERATE CONFIDENCE THAT PATCHY STRATUS WILL REACH LA/VTU VALLEYS OVERNIGHT. KLAX...EXPECT VFR CONDS THROUGH THIS EVENING WITH MVFR CIGS LIKELY AFTER 06Z THROUGH MID-MORNING HOURS. KBUR...EXPECT VFR CONDS THROUGH OVERNIGHT HOURS. LOW TO MODERATE CONFIDENCE THAT PATCHY CIGS WILL REACH KBUR BY 10Z. && .LOX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY (SEE LAXMWWLOX). && $$ PUBLIC...HALL AVIATION...31 WWW.WEATHER.GOV/LOSANGELES
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL
653 AM CDT THU AUG 7 2008 .DISCUSSION... 355 AM CDT HIGHLY AMPLIFIED PATTERN FOR TIME OF YEAR WITH AN UPPER RIDGE CONTINUING TO BUILD WELL NORTHWARD ACROSS WESTERN CANADA AND THE DOWNSTREAM TROF OVER EASTERN NOAM SHARPENING AS A STRONG SHORT WAVE ROTATES ACROSS THE CENTRAL GREAT LAKES. MODELS SIMILAR IN MAINTAINING THE PATTERN IN SHORTER TERM BUT AS WEEKEND PROGRESSES DIFFERENCES IN HOW PATTERN EVOLVES GROW...ESPECIALLY BY EARLY NEXT WEEK. MAIN DIFFERENCES ARE IN HOW QUICKLY THE UPPER RIDGE PROGRESSES EASTWARD AND BREAKS DOWN AS ENERGY FROM STRONG NORTH PACIFIC UPPER LOWS COME ASHORE AND CROSS THE CANADIAN AND NORTHERN ROCKIES. REINFORCEMENT OF COOL DRY AIR OCCURRING ACROSS THE REGION EARLY THIS MORNING IN WAKE OF SHORT WAVE THAT DROPPED SOUTHEAST THROUGH THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES WED AFTERNOON AND EVENING. A COUPLE MINOR DISTURBANCES FOLLOWING IT BUT ANY SHRA OR TS ASSOCIATED WITH THE IMPULSES AIDED BY DAYTIME HEATING WILL BE CONFINED TO POINTS N-E WHERE CORE OF COLD POOL ALOFT AND STEEP LAPSE RATES WILL BE LOCATED CLOSER TO UPPER TROF AXIS. CENTER OF SURFACE HI PRES RIDGE BUILDS ACROSS WESTERN ONTARIO AND THE UPPER MIDWEST TODAY. PROFILER AND VAD WINDS ALREADY INDICATING 25-30KT N FLOW 925-850 MB. WITH MIXING AFTER SUNRISE SFC WINDS TO VEER TO MORE NORTHERLY AND EVENTUALLY TURN IN OFF OF LAKE MI. THIS WILL KEEP AREAS NEAR THE LAKE IN THE MID 70S TODAY WHILE REST OF FA WILL MAINLY MAX OUT IN THE LOWER 80S. CENTER OF THE RIDGE CONTINUES TO SETTLE ACROSS THE AREA OVERNIGHT. CLEAR SKY AND LOW DEW POINTS WILL ALLOW TEMPS TO FALL INTO THE 55-60 DEGREE RANGE GENERALLY...WITH USUAL ELEVATED URBAN TEMPS AND LOCAL COOL AIR DRAINAGE SPOTS. SIMILAR CONDITIONS FOR FRI AND FRI NIGHT WITH CENTER OF HI OVER THE CENTRAL MS VALLEY. MODELS SUGGESTING SOME WAA CLOUDS AND RA BREAK OUT FRI NIGHT ACROSS MN AND IA...AND POSSIBLY SPREADING SOUTHEASTWARD WITH THE MEAN FLOW AND REACHING NORTHERN IL DURING SAT AND SUN. FEEL THAT FORCING WILL REMAIN TO THE NW AND ANY PRECIP THAT DOES DEVELOP WILL DRY UP AS IT MOVES CLOSER TO THE CORE OF THE SFC ANTICYCLONE SO ONLY HAVE SLIGHT CHANCE POPS GRADUALLY SPREADING INTO THE FA SAT NIGHT AND SUN. HAVE POPS UP TO CHANCE CATEGORY ACROSS THE FA BY MON NIGHT. OPERATIONAL GFS SHOWING STRONG STORM SYSTEM MOVING FROM THE CENTRAL PLAINS TO THE MID MS VALLEY DURING MON...AND OVER IL BY 12Z TUE. SEVERAL GFS ENSEMBLE MEMBERS SHOW A MUCH WEAKER VERSION OF THIS SO CANNOT TOTALLY DISREGARD GFS BUT DO BELIEVE IT TO BE WAY OVERDONE WITH CLOSED CIRCULATIONS SFC UP THRU 500MB. TRS && .AVIATION... 1200 UTC TAFS... WILL INCREASE THE NORTHWEST WIND FOR THIS AFTERNOON. THERE ARE SOME GUSTS UP TO 22 KNOTS NEAR THE LAKE WHERE THE WIND HAS LITTLE FRICTION AND THE ATMOSPHERE BELOW 2 KM HAS BEEN WELL MIXED. THE PROFILER AT BLUE RIVER WISCONSIN SHOWS 20 KNOT TO 25 KNOTS WIND AROUND 2 KM. THE ACARS SOUNDING AT ORD SHOWS AN INVERSION AT 600 METERS. THIS INVERSION WILL BREAK WHEN THE TEMPERATURE REACHES 77 DEGREES AFTER 9 TO 10 AM THIS MORNING. WILL FORECAST A NORTHWEST WIND 14 KNOTS GUSTING TO 22 KNOTS. A LAKE BREEZE WILL DEVELOP THIS AFTERNOON. BUT IT MAY NOT MOVE VERY FAR INLAND. WE WILL FORECAST SCATTERED CUMULUS CLOUDS. THERE MAY BE AN ISOLATED SHOWER OR A THUNDERSTORMS. BUT THE PROBABILITY IS VERY LOW FOR A SHOWER OR THUNDERSTORM TO OCCUR IN A PARTICULAR LOCATION. && .MARINE... 601 AM CDT LARGE HIGH OVER SOUTHERN SASKATCHEWAN EXTENDS SOUTH TO ARKANSAS THIS MORNING. A LOW LIES FROM WESTERN QUEBEC THROUGH NEW YORK STATE AND TO SOUTHERN OHIO. THE HIGH WILL MOVE EAST VERY SLOWLY AND WILL BUILD OVER MANITOBA TO LOUISIANA BY THURSDAY MORNING. THE LOW CENTER WILL BE OVER SOUTHERN ONTARIO BY THURSDAY AFTERNOON. && .LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... IL...NONE. IN...RIP CURRENTS ARE POSSIBLE ON THE INDIANA SHORE TODAY THROUGH FRIDAY. LM...NONE. && $$
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LOUISVILLE KY
100 AM EDT THU AUG 7 2008 .SHORT TERM (TONIGHT AND THURSDAY)... CURRENTLY...AREA SFC OBS INDICATE THAT A FRONTAL BOUNDARY WAS LOCATED FROM ROUGHLY STL TO IND...BASICALLY IN THE SAME PLACE IT WAS LOCATED THIS MORNING. THIS STALLED FRONT WILL PUSH SOUTH TOWARD THE CWA OVERNIGHT HELPED BY AN APPROACHING UPPER-LEVEL SHORTWAVE...AND EVENTUALLY THE FRONT WILL PUSH THROUGH THE CWA BY THURSDAY AFTN. HOWEVER AHEAD OF THIS BOUNDARY...THERE REMAINS A CHC FOR DIURNALLY-DRIVEN ISLD-SCT SHOWERS/STORMS MAINLY OVER SOUTHERN KY. LOCATIONS CLOSER TO THE FRONT ARE CAPPED FROM MID-LEVEL WARMING FOUND ON RECENT ACARS SOUNDING OUT OF SDF. THEREFORE WILL LOWER POPS TO SLIGHT CHC OVER THE NORTH HALF OF THE CWA THINKING THAT WE WILL REMAINED CAPPED. FURTHER SOUTH...CU FIELD IS DEVELOPING CLOSE TO THE TN BORDER...SO LEFT CHC POPS ACROSS THE SOUTH FOR THIS AFTN-EVE. IF ANY OF THESE STORMS FORM...ISOLATED DAMAGING WIND GUSTS AND SMALL HAIL WILL BE THE MAIN THREATS. IF ANY SHOWERS/STORMS CAN BREAK THE CAP...THEN THEY SHOULD WANE AROUND SUNSET. OVERNIGHT...SHORT-TERM MODELS PUSH THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY TO OUR FAR SRN CWA BY 12Z THURSDAY. BEHIND THIS...AMPLE LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE SHOULD HELP FORM A POSSIBLE FOG/STRATUS SITUATION. MAY ADD IN PATCHY FOG TO OUR NORTHERN CWA. IF BOUNDARY LAYER WINDS ARE TOO STRONG THOUGH...THEN STRATUS IS MORE LIKELY THAN FOG. ALSO AMPLE MID-LEVEL CLOUDS COULD HINDER FOG FORMATION. HELD OVERNIGHT LOWS CLOSE TO MOS...WITH MID 60S TO LOW 70S FROM NORTH TO SOUTH. SHORT-TERM MODELS CONTINUE TO OVERDO PRECIP WITH THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY SAGGING SOUTHWARD OVERNIGHT INTO TOMORROW. THUS FOLLOWED ENSEMBLES AND ONLY KEPT IN SMALL CHC POPS ACROSS THE FAR SOUTH IN CASE THE FRONT GETS HUNG UP FURTHER NORTH THAN EXPECTED. HOWEVER MOST AREAS ARE EXPECTED TO REMAIN DRY TOMORROW. CONCERNING HIGH TEMPS...WENT A TAD BELOW MOS GUIDANCE FOR THURSDAY. .LONG TERM (THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY)... AT THE START OF THE LONGER TERM THE AIRMASS THAT BROUGHT THE RAIN IS BEING REPLACED BY DRIER AIR AND A LITTLE COOLER AIR BROUGHT SOUTH BY HIGH PRESSURE OVER THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. A DEEP TROUGH TO OUR EAST AND RIDGE TO OUR WEST WILL KEEP NORTHWEST FLOW OVER THE LOWER OHIO VALLEY THROUGH THE FIRST PART OF THE WEEKEND. MODELS ARE SIMILAR WITH THIS PART OF THE FORECAST. BEGINNING SUNDAY...MODELS START TO DIVERGE. GFS AND GFS ENSEMBLE KEEP THE HIGH AND NORTHWEST FLOW OVER OUR AREA THROUGH THE FIRST PART OF NEXT WEEK WITH THE FLOW BECOMING LESS AMPLIFIED TOWARD TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY. THE ECMWF FLATTENS THE AMPLIFIED PATTERN BEGINNING SUNDAY...BRINGING A SHORTWAVE ACROSS THE NORTHERN STATES SUNDAY AND INTO THE OHIO VALLEY BY MONDAY MORNING. THIS SCENARIO BRINGS A CHANCE OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS INTO THE FORECAST AREA STARTING SUNDAY NIGHT WHILE THE GFS KEEPS US DRY THROUGH TUESDAY. ATTM WILL STAY CLOSER TO THE RECOMMENDED ECMWF SCENARIO BUT WITH MODIFICATIONS MADE BY HPC. WITH UNCERTAINTY IN THE MODEL SOLUTIONS WILL KEEP POPS LOW. HIGH PRESSURE AND COOLER NORTHERLY WINDS WILL KEEP HIGHS IN THE LOWER AND MID 80S AND LOWS IN THE 50S THROUGH MUCH OF THE WEEKEND. WINDS WILL STAY LIGHT WITH ONLY SCATTERED CLOUDS OVER THE AREA. FOLLOWING THE ECMWF SCENARIO...CLOUDS WILL BEGIN TO INCREASE SUNDAY NIGHT WITH A CHANCE OF SHOWERS DEVELOPING OVER THE NORTH AS A WARM FRONT APPROACHES LATE SUNDAY NIGHT. LOW PRESSURE WILL MOVE ACROSS THE AREA MONDAY WITH A TRAILING WEAK COOL FRONT SETTLING TO OUR SOUTH BY TUESDAY MORNING. SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS WILL BE SCATTERED OVER THE AREA MONDAY AND WILL CONTINUE TUESDAY AND INTO WEDNESDAY WITH THE FRONT JUST TO OUR SOUTH. HIGH TEMPERATURES WILL BE IN THE 80S. && .AVIATION (06Z TAFS)... FOG DEVELOPING ACROSS THE AREA WILL PROVIDE FOR SOME LOWERING IN VISIBILITIES THROUGH AROUND 13Z THURSDAY. MVFR CONDITIONS WILL BE LIKELY FOR LENGTHY PERIODS AT BWG AND LEX...AND MAY OCCUR FOR BRIEF PERIODS AT SDF. OTHERWISE...VFR CONDITIONS CAN BE EXPECTED THROUGH THE TAF PERIOD AS HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS IN FROM THE NORTH. && .LMK WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... KY...NONE. IN...NONE. && $$ SHORT TERM...AL/SLD LONG TERM....MBS AVIATION.....MACZKO
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON DC
358 AM EDT THU AUG 7 2008 .SYNOPSIS... LIMITED LOW LEVEL MOISTURE AND COLD AIR ALOFT WILL ALLOW FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THUNDERSTORMS TODAY AND TOMORROW. DRIER AND COOLER CONDITIONS ARRIVE THIS WEEKEND AS THE MOIST AIRMASS IN PLACE IS DIVERTED SOUTH AND EAST OF THE AREA. && .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/... WATER VAPOR LOOP SHOWS A SERIES OF SHORT WAVES CROSSING THE GREAT LAKES AS RIDGING OCCURS FROM THE SOUTHWEST CONUS UP THE ROCKIES. THIS IS FAVORING HEIGHT FALLS ACROSS THE EASTERN CONUS. ACARS 400-250MB WIND OBSERVATIONS REVEAL A 90 TO 125KT WESTERLY JET FROM THE UPPER MIDWEST THROUGH THE LOWER GREAT LAKES AND SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND. 03Z SURFACE ANALYSIS PLACED A STATIONARY BOUNDARY FROM SOUTHERN VIRGINIA WEST INTO THE PLAINS. A SECONDARY BOUNDARY WAS SWEEPING ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES. ARRIVAL OF SHORT WAVE WILL CONTINUE TO LOWER HEIGHTS AND INTRODUCE PASSAGE OF COLD POOL ALOFT. INSTABILITY INCREASES DURING THE DAY AS A RESULT...LEADING TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF SCATTERED CONVECTION. 00Z NAM/GFS INDICATE LOW INSTABILITY OF ABOUT 250-500 J/KG OF MLCAPE. 21Z SREF PROBABILITIES ALSO ALIGN WITH THESE VALUES...INDICATING A DECENT CHANCE OF 500 J/KG OF MUCAPE...BUT A VERY LOW CHANCE OF 1000 J/KG. WHILE THIS WILL BE ENOUGH TO SUPPORT SOME CHARGE SEPARATION FOR LIGHTNING PRODUCTION...INDIVIDUAL LIFE CYCLES WILL LIKELY BE RELATIVELY SHORT OWING TO 30KT OR LESS OF EFFECTIVE SHEAR...AND RATHER DRY FORECAST SOUNDINGS. 00Z NAM/GFS INDICATE HIGH BASED CONVECTION WITH INVERTED-V SIGNATURE. WITH MID LEVEL FLOW INCREASING AS THE UPPER TROUGH BUILDS IN...THIS IS FAVORABLE FOR LOCALLY GUSTY OR DAMAGING WINDS WITH THE STRONGER ACTIVITY. && .SHORT TERM /6 PM THIS EVENING THROUGH 6 AM FRIDAY/... WHILE THERE WILL BE SOME DIURNAL WEAKENING OF CONVECTION AROUND SUNSET...MID LEVEL TROUGH SHOULD TEND TO ALLOW SHOWERS TO CONTINUE INTO THE OVERNIGHT HOURS ESPECIALLY CLOSER TO THE COLD POOL ALOFT TO THE NORTH. GRADUAL DISSIPATION OF PRECIPITATION SHOULD ALLOW MID LEVEL CLOUDINESS TO THIN DURING THE SECOND HALF OF THE NIGHT.... LEADING TO A COOLER NIGHT AS A DRIER AIRMASS MOVES INTO THE REGION. && .LONG TERM /FRIDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... SHRTWV TROF ROTATING AROUND SRN PERIPHERY OF UPR TROF OVER NERN CONUS WILL MOVE ACRS MID ATLC AND SRN NEW ENGLAND FRI...AND SHUD BE CLEAR OF FCST AREA BY FRI EVE. COLD AIR ALOFT WILL CONTRIBUTE TO DVLPMT OF INSTBY DESPITE BLW NRML TEMPS. CONCERN ABOUT EROSION OF LOW LVL MSTR WITH RESPECT TO TIMING OF UPR WAVE PRECLUDES HIGHER POPS...BUT HAVE EXPANDED CVRG SWD TO ENCOMPASS ALL ZONES. HIGHEST POPS IN NRN ZONES CLOSEST TO UPR TROF. PATTERN IN XTNDD PDS WILL FEATURE UPR TROF OVER NERN CONUS AND AMPLIFIED RDG OVER CNTRL CONUS...TRENDING TWD OMEGA BLOCK THIS WKEND. RESULT WILL BE COOLER AND DRIER CONDITIONS MID ATLC...WITH MINIMA APRCHG LOW 50S SAT AND SUN MRNGS IN WRN ZONES. OMEGA BLOCK ERODES EARLY NEXT WK...WITH LESS AMPLIFIED TROF REMAINING ACRS ERN CONUS. MODELS AND GFS ENSEMBLE INDICATE SHRTWV TROF /OF VARYING STRENGTH AND SPEED/ APRCHG MID ATLC MON THRU WED. WITH WLY TO WSWLY FLOW ACRS APLCHNS...LEE TROF SHUD DVLP AND AID IN MSTR RETURN TO FCST AREA BY ARRIVAL OF SHRTWV TROF. HAVE EXPANDED POPS TEMPORALLY FROM MON EVE THRU WED...WITH HIGHEST VALUES TUE AFTN THRU TUE EVE. && .AVIATION /07Z THURSDAY THROUGH MONDAY/... DRYING HAS TAKEN PLACE...WHICH WILL LIMIT PATCHY FOG EARLY THIS MORNING. SCATTERED CONVECTION EXPECTED TO DEVELOP THIS AFTERNOON AS COLD POOL ALOFT SWINGS OVER THE REGION FROM THE OHIO VALLEY. HAVE MENTION AS TEMPO OF SHRA AND CB...AS INSTABILITY IS RELATIVELY WEAK AND FEEL MOST ACTIVITY WILL STRUGGLE TO GENERATE CHARGE SEPARATION FOR MUCH LIGHTNING ACTIVITY...BUT SOME THUNDER CAN BE EXPECTED IN STRONGEST ACTIVITY. DRY BOUNDARY LAYER AND INCREASING MID LEVEL FLOW ARE INGREDIENTS WHICH SUPPORT LOCALLY GUSTY WINDS WITHIN SHOWERS. SECONDARY COOL FRONT PASSES THIS EVENING SHIFTING WINDS MORE OUT OF THE NNW...AS DEBRIS CLOUDINESS REMAINS TRAPPED IN THE MID LEVELS. ISOLD SHRA/TSTMS PSBL FRI AS TROF AXIS PASSES THRU...FOLLOWED BY PD OF DRIER WX THIS WKEND. && .MARINE... NORTHWEST FLOW IN PLACE EARLY THIS MORNING WILL TEND TO DIMINISH MID DAY AHEAD OF THE NEXT COLD FRONT. THE PASSAGE OF THIS BOUNDARY WILL REINFORCE NORTHWESTERLY FLOW TONIGHT. SCATTERED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS ARE FORECAST TO DEVELOP THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING. SOME OF THESE STORMS WILL CONTAIN LOCALLY GUSTY WINDS...LIKELY NECESSITATING SPECIAL MARINE WARNINGS. ISOLD SHRA/TSTMS PSBL FRI AS TROF AXIS PASSES THRU...BUT PLEASANT WX XPCD FOR WKEND AS WINDS GENLY REMAIN LGT. RETURN TO WETTER CONDITIONS MON EVE THRU WED AS SHRTWV TROF NEARS...WINDS INCR...AND MSTR RETURNS TO AREA. && .LWX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... DC...NONE. MD...NONE. VA...NONE. WV...NONE. MARINE...NONE. && $$ ROGOWSKI/KRAMAR
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS ALBUQUERQUE NM
1120 AM MDT FRI AUG 8 2008 .UPDATE... HAVE DECIDED TO GO WITH A FLASH FLOOD WATCH FOR PORTIONS OF WESTERN NM AND ALSO AREAS ALONG AND EAST OF THE CENTRAL MOUNTAIN CHAIN. HEAVY RAINFALL ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE EAST YESTERDAY HAVE RESULTED IN SATURATED GROUNDS AND WILL LEAD TO HEAVY RUNOFF. IN ADDITION...RECENT HEAVY RAINS ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE WEST...ESPECIALLY IN THE VICINITY OF THE CHUSKAS...MAY ALSO RESULT IN FLASH FLOODING. MORNING SOUNDINGS AT EPZ AND ABQ HAVE SHOWN INCREASED PWAT VALUES FROM THE SOUNDING TAKEN THURSDAY AT 12Z. NO OTHER CHANGES MADE AT THIS POINT...AS ALREADY HAVE LIKELY POPS IN THESE AREAS. ZONE UPDATE OUT SHORTLY. 34 && .PREV DISCUSSION...257 AM MDT FRI AUG 8 2008... 08Z SURFACE ANALYSIS ACROSS NM SHOWS A FRONTAL BOUNDARY STRETCHING FROM THE NW MTNS SE ACROSS THE RIO GRANDE VALLEY INTO THE SE PLAINS. WATER VAPOR LOOP SHOWS A TROUGH OVER THE EASTERN HALF OF THE CONUS WITH A LARGE MOIST PLUME OVER THE WESTERN CONUS ADVECTING NORTH ALONG THE WESTERN PERIPHERY OF THE UPPER RIDGE PARKED OVER THE E NM/W TX. 400-250 MB AIRCRAFT WIND PLOT SUPPORTS THE RIDGE POSITION OVER NE NM. MADE MINOR CHANGES TO ONGOING FORECAST FOR TODAY. 00Z NAM/GFS POORLY INITIALIZED PRECIPITATION FIELDS FOR THIS MORNING. BEST ANALYSIS WAS THE RUC13 AND MORE CONSISTENT 12Z/00Z ECMWF/UKMET. POSITIONED THE GREATEST POPS IN LINE WITH THE 00Z ECMWF/UKMET SFC FRONT AND ENHANCED REGIONS OF UPSLOPE FLOW ALONG THE CENTRAL MTNS. NUDGED FORECAST PACKAGE MORE IN LINE WITH THE ECMWF/UKMET/HPC QPF FIELDS THROUGH MONDAY...THEN BLENDED THE 00Z CANADIAN THEREAFTER. SATURDAY APPEARS TO BE THE LEAST ACTIVE DAY INTO AT LEAST NEXT WEEK BUT SCATTERED ACTIVITY IS STILL LIKELY. LEFT HIGHEST POPS IN THE NE CORNER WHERE DAILY WIND SHIFTS WILL INCREASE LOW LEVEL MOISTURE CONVERGENCE...AND OVER THE SW CORNER WHERE MONSOONAL TAP ENHANCES DAILY ROUNDS OF AFTERNOON/EVENING CONVECTION. EXTENDED MODEL SOLNS ARE CHANGING THEIR TUNE AGAIN...WITH AN UPTICK IN CONVECTION ACROSS THE CENTRAL/WESTERN HALF OF THE STATE THROUGH MID NEXT WEEK AS THE UPPER RIDGE CENTER DEVELOPS OVER CENTRAL TEXAS. A DOWNTICK THEN DEVELOPS AGAIN LATE IN THE WEEK AS THE RIDGE REPOSITIONS OVER THE FOUR CORNERS REGION. GUYER .AVIATION... SCATTERED TO NUMEROUS SHOWERS WITH AREAS OF FOG WILL PRODUCE IFR TO MVFR CIGS AND VISIBILITIES AND MOUNTAIN OBSCURATIONS THROUGH MUCH OF THE FORECAST PERIOD. THROUGH 17Z...SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS WILL BE MOST NUMEROUS ACROSS THE NORTH...CENTRAL MOUNTAINS AND EAST. FOG AND LOW CEILINGS WILL AFFECT THE AREA FROM KRTN TO KLVS AND EASTWARD... WITH LIFR CONDITIONS IN THE EXTREME NE CORNER OF THE STATE INCLUDING KCAO. THUNDERSTORMS TO INCREASE AFTER 17Z PRODUCING IFR/MVFR CONDITIONS AND HEAVY RAIN MUCH OF FORECAST AREA...BUT ESPECIALLY THE WESTERN AND NE AREAS INCLUDING KFMN...KGUP...KLVS...KSAF...AND KTCC. NEXT AVIATION DISCUSSION SCHEDULED FOR 21Z. 05 .FIRE WEATHER... CONTINUED HIGH HUMIDITY WITH SCATTERED TO AT TIMES NUMEROUS SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS THROUGH AT LEAST SUNDAY. WETTING RAIN WILL REMAIN A POSSIBILITY FOR MOST OF THE FORECAST AREA THROUGH MONDAY. EXTENDED MODELS HINT AT SOME CHANGES STARTING ON TUESDAY...WITH A REDUCTION IN WETTING RAIN MOST AREAS AND ESPECIALLY THE SOUTHEAST...AND DECREASED RELATIVE HUMIDITIES. 05 && .ABQ WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... FLASH FLOOD WATCH THROUGH LATE TONIGHT FOR THE FOLLOWING ZONES... NMZ001-004>008-011-012-014-016-017-026. && $$ 34
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS BURLINGTON VT
1032 AM EDT THU AUG 7 2008 .SYNOPSIS... UNSETTLED RAINY PERIOD WILL CONTINUE FOR THE NORTH COUNTRY INTO THE UPCOMING WEEKEND. AN UPPER LEVEL LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL MEANDER OVER SOUTHERN QUEBEC TODAY AND ON INTO THE WEEKEND...WHICH WILL ALLOW PRECIPITATION TO CONTINUE OVER THE AREA. RAIN WILL TAPER OFF FOR MUCH OF THE AREA BY SUNDAY...BUT A SURFACE FRONT MAY SET UP OVER NORTHERN AREAS BY LATE SUNDAY INTO MONDAY. ANOTHER LOW MAY MOVE OVER THE REGION BY MIDWEEK NEXT WEEK. && .NEAR TERM /THROUGH TONIGHT/... AS OF 1032 AM EDT THURSDAY...QUICK AND MINOR UPDATE THIS MORNING...MAINLY TO REFLECT LATEST TRENDS IN SKY COVER/TEMPS...AND TO INTRODUCE SMALL HAIL POSSIBILITY IN GRIDS WITH ANY STRONGER CORES TODAY. LATEST POINT/ACARS/BUFKIT SOUNDINGS SHOWING BNDRY LYR ALREADY BECOMING UNSTABLE ACROSS THE REGION THIS MORNING...AND WITH DIGGING UPPER TROUGH IN SC CANADA AND APPROACHING SHORTWAVE FROM WESTERN NEW YORK...LITTLE INHIBITION FOR AFTERNOON CONVECTION AGAIN TODAY. MID LVL LAPSE RATES A BIT WEAKER ACROSS THE NORTH THAN AREAS SOUTH...NONETHELESS THESE SHOULD STEEPEN LATER TODAY WITH FALLING HEIGHTS/COOLING TEMPS ALOFT. SAVING GRACE IS THAT ACTIVITY SHOULD BE SOMEWHAT MORE SCATTERED THAN YESTERDAY...THOUGH WILL MAINTAIN LOCALLY HEAVY RAFL WORDING AS CELLS WILL LIKELY MOVE FAIRLY SLOWLY (LESS THAN 25 MPH). WITH FAIRLY LOW WBZ HEIGHTS LESS THAN 9 KFT...STRONGER CORES WILL ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO PRODUCE SOME SMALL HAIL. WITH LIGHT WINDS AND LACK OF STRONGER ADVECTIVE PROCESSES...MAX TEMPS WILL BE GOVERNED MORE STRONGLY BY DEGREE OF CLOUD COVER THAN ELEVATION...AND THUS WILL BE FAIRLY UNIFORM...FROM 67 TO 74 MOST AREAS. PREVIOUS DISC FOR TONIGHT FROM 349 AM EDT THU... AS UPPER TROUGH DIGS SOUTHWARD TNGT...SYSTEM WILL TAP INTO ATLANTIC MOISTURE AS SOUTHERLY FLOW INCREASES. THIS AGAIN WILL INCR THE POTENTIAL FOR FLOODING ISSUES FOR ENTIRE CWA...BUT BASED ON THE TRACK OF UPPER LOW AS IT DIGS SOUTH...BEST CHANCES RIGHT NOW WILL BE FROM THE CVLY EASTWARD. ALL AREAS OVER CWA WILL BE PRONE TO SOME FLOODING ACTIVITY DO TO PREVIOUS DAYS RAINFALL RECEIVED. NEXT SHIFT WILL HAVE TO EVALUATE FOR POSSIBLE FLOOD WATCH FOR LATE TNGT OR ON FRIDAY. && .SHORT TERM /FRIDAY THROUGH SATURDAY/... AS OF 349 AM EDT THURSDAY...UPPER TROUGH OVER THE CWA ON FRIDAY AND WILL SHOW INCR IN POPS FOR AREA-WIDE AS SYSTEM SLOW TO MV OUT OF AREA. BUFKIT SUGGESTING ANY TS THAT MAY FORM FRIDAY MAY HAVE BEST POTENTIAL FOR FLOODING FOR THE CWA DO TO LACK OF WINDS TO QUICKLY MV ANY STORMS. WINDS NEARLY UNIFORM UP TO 25KFT. MDL QPF FOR GD PORTION OF THE CWA COULD REACH 1-3 INCHES AND WITH AREAS ALREADY RAIN-SOAKED...THIS COULD BE MAJOR ISSUE. WILL ADJUST POPS BY FRIDAY NGT INTO SAT MORN FROM SOUTH TO N AS UPPER TROUGH BEGINS TO LIFT OUT OF AREA. WRAP AROUND SHOWERS WILL CONTINUE TO REACH INTO THE CWA FOR MUCH OF SATURDAY...ESPECIALLY NORTHERN ZONES. && .LONG TERM /SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY/... AS OF 349 AM EDT THURSDAY...BUILDING SFC RIDGE WILL PLAY KEY ROLE FOR MUCH OF THE EXTENDED INTO WEDNESDAY. PREVIOUS RUNS HAVE SHIFTED TIMING OF RIDGE. THIS WILL CURRENTLY ALLOW SOME DRYING DURING MIDWEEK FOR GD PORTION OF THE CWA. POTENTIAL FOR STATIONARY BOUNDARY TO SET UP ALONG THE CANADIAN BORDER BY MONDAY IF RIDGE SETS UP TO OUR SOUTH. THIS WILL PLACE GREATEST CHANCE FOR CONTINUING LGT RW AND POSSIBLE TRW OVER NORTHERN ZONES. THIS FRNT WOULD PUSH THRU REGION BY TUESDAY AS ANOTHER SFC RIDGE BUILDS OUT OF CANADA. PREVIOUS RUNS WOULD HAVE BROUGHT A SFC LOW UP ALONG FRNT FOR ANOTHER ROUND OF GD STEADY RAINFALL WEDNESDAY...BUT NOW AS SHIFTED SOUTH. WILL JUST KEEP SL CHANCE IN FOR NOW FOR RW/TRW MON-WED AS NEXT RUNS COULD SHIFT SYSTEM TO BE SLOWER AND ALLOW SFC LOW TO COME UP OVER THE REGION. HAVE ADJUSTED TEMPS DOWN SOME TO ACCOMMODATE CLDS AND RIDGE APPROACHING FROM THE N. && .AVIATION /14Z THURSDAY THROUGH MONDAY/... THROUGH 12Z FRIDAY...FOG IS BEGINNING TO DECREASE IN AREAL COVERAGE AND THE TREND THROUGH 14Z WILL BE FOR CONDITIONS TO BECOME VFR. AFTER 16Z...EXPECT SHOWERS AND ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS TO DEVELOP ACROSS THE AREA RESULTING IN MVFR CONDITIONS. HEAVY DOWNPOURS CAN BE EXPECTED WITH ANY OF THE STRONGER STORMS. THE THREAT FOR PRECIPITATION WILL CONTINUE AFTER 00Z...BUT SHOULD BE SCATTERED IN NATURE. THIS WILL HOWEVER RESULT IN MVFR CONDITIONS AT TIMES THROUGH THE OVERNIGHT HOURS. 12Z FRIDAY THROUGH MONDAY...AN UPPER LEVEL TROUGH WILL BE MOVING ACROSS THE AREA THROUGH THIS PERIOD. FRIDAY SHOULD SEE THE MOST CLOUDS AND PRECIPITATION RESULTING IN MVFR/IFR CONDITIONS. ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY THERE WILL BE VFR PERIODS...BUT AFTERNOON AND EVENING SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS WILL RESULT IN MVFR CONDITIONS. SOME DRYING TO TAKE PLACE ON MONDAY WHICH WILL BEGIN TO DIMINISH THE SHOWER THREAT AND KEEP CONDITIONS MAINLY IN THE VFR CATEGORY. && .BTV WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... VT...NONE. NY...NONE. && $$ SYNOPSIS...JN NEAR TERM...JMG/JN SHORT TERM...JN LONG TERM...JN AVIATION...EVENSON

SOUTHWEST CALIFORNIA AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS LOS ANGELES/OXNARD CA
920 AM PDT SAT AUG 9 2008 .UPDATE...VERY PATCHY COVERAGE OF LOW CLOUDS SOUTH OF POINT CONCEPTION THIS MORNING HAS MAINLY CLEARED ANY COASTAL LOCATION AT 16Z. LAX ACARS DATA SHOWS THE MARINE LAYER UP TO 1600 FT DEEP BUT THIS HAS NOT RESULTED IN MUCH STRATUS PROBLEMS. LOW CLOUDS ARE MORE ENTRENCHED ACROSS THE CENTRAL COAST AND DOWN THE SALINAS RIVER VALLEY. FORECASTS HAVE THINGS WELL COVERED FOR THIS MORNING SO NO UPDATES EXPECTED. ONSHORE GRADIENTS ARE STRONGER THAN YESTERDAY AT THIS TIME AND HAVE SEEN SOUTHWEST WINDS APPEAR ACROSS THE ANTELOPE VALLEY EARLIER THAN ON FRIDAY. TEMPERATURES ARE RUNNING A FEW DEGREES COOLER TODAY ACROSS THE MAJORITY OF THE REGION WHICH THE CORRECT FORECAST TREND. LITTLE OVERALL CHANGE IS EXPECTED OVER THE NEXT FEW DAYS AND WILL PLAY A PERSISTENCE FORECAST APPROACH IN THE UPCOMING PACKAGE. ...FROM PREVIOUS DISCUSSION... TRENDING ONSHORE GRADIENTS SHOULD BRING SLIGHTLY COOLER CONDITIONS TO THE AREA AGAIN TODAY...WITH COOLING TREND LIKELY BOTTOMING OUT TODAY. TEMPERATURES SHOULD BE ABOUT A FEW DEGREES COOLER THAN YESTERDAY. WARMING TREND SHOULD BEGIN LATE IN THE WEEKEND AS GRADIENT START TRENDING OFFSHORE...950 MB TEMPERATURES WARM...AND RIDGE BUILDS OVER THE AREA ONCE AGAIN. HUGE WARMING IS NOT EXPECTED AS ONSHORE FLOW REGIME IS EXPECTED TO PERSIST. .LONG TERM (TUESDAY-FRIDAY)...SOUTHWEST FLOW ALOFT WILL KEEP SIMILAR CONDITIONS IN PLACE THROUGH FIRST PART OF NEXT WEEK...BUT MODELS START DIVERGING FOR MID-TO-LATE WEEK. THE OPERATIONAL GFS SOLUTION INDICATE MONSOONAL MOISTURE PUSHING BACK OVER THE AS EARLY AS WEDNESDAY. A WEAK TROUGH FORMS OUT AROUND 27 N AND 121 W AND TURNS THE FLOW TOWARDS THE SOUTH...BRINGING MOISTURE NORTH INTO THE AREA. THE ECMWF SOLUTION FORM THIS TROUGH...BUT FURTHER WEST AND ALLOWS FOR SOUTHEAST FLOW ALOFT TO ESTABLISH OVER THE AREA ON THURSDAY. THE ECMWF SOLUTIONS AGREE WELL WITH ABOUT A THIRD OF THE ENSEMBLE RUNS ESTABLISH SOUTHEAST FLOW ALOFT OVER THE AREA FOR LATE WEEK. CONFIDENCE IS GROWING FOR POSSIBLE INCREASING POPS AND WEATHER FOR LATE WEEK...BUT TIMING REMAINS THE MAIN ISSUE. FOR NOW...MINOR CHANGES HAVE BEEN TO THE PACKAGE FOR LATE WEEK. && .AVIATION...09/1200Z STRONG UPPER LEVEL SOUTHWEST FLOW OVER THE AREA WILL PREVAIL WHILE A RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE SOUTH OF THE AREA AND A TROUGH OF LOW PRESSURE CENTERED ALONG THE WEST COAST SHIFTS EAST. A RELATIVELY SHALLOW MARINE LAYER WITH ISOLATED CIGS WITH TOPS APPROXIMATELY 010 OVER THE BIGHT WILL PERSIST THROUGH THE PERIOD. A WEAK ONSHORE PRESSURE GRADIENT WILL BECOME MODERATE IN THE AFTERNOON THEN A WEAK NORTHERLY GRADIENT WILL DEVELOP WHILE THE SHALLOW CATALINA EDDY DEEPENS. KLAX...THERE IS A CHANCE CIGS 010-012 WILL OCCUR IN THE EARLY PORTION OF THE PERIOD AND THEN REDEVELOP SUN MORNING. KBUR...IT IS LIKELY CLEAR SKIES WILL PREVAIL BELOW 12KFT. VIRTUALLY CERTAIN - 95-100% VERY LIKELY - 80-95% LIKELY - 60-80% CHANCE - 30-60% NOT VERY LIKELY - 20% OR LESS && .LOX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY (SEE LAXMWWLOX). && $$ PUBLIC...BOLDT/HALL AVIATION...30 WWW.WEATHER.GOV/LOSANGELES
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS BILLINGS MT
955 AM MDT SAT AUG 9 2008 .SHORT TERM...VALID FOR TDY AND SUN... MADE A FEW CHANGES THIS MORNING...BUT NOTHING TOO DRAMATIC. LOWERED POPS ACROSS THE CENTRAL AND WESTERN ZONES A BIT AS CONVECTION ALL TO THE WEST OF THE AREA THIS MORNING. WATER VAPOR IMAGERY LOOKING QUITE A BIT DIFFERENT TODAY COMPARED TO THE LAST SEVERAL AS FLOW ALOFT LOOKS A BIT STRONGER. AXIS OF DEEPEST MOISTURE SEEMS TO BE SHIFTING TO THE EAST...WITH SOME DRIER AIR ALOFT WORKING INTO NEVADA AND IDAHO...SHIFTING NORTHEAST INTO THE WESTERN HALF OF THE MONTANA. LOOKS ARE A BIT DECEIVING AS PRECIPITABLE WATER AMOUNTS WERE AN INCH AT BOISE AND SALT LAKE CITY ON 12Z SOUNDINGS...WHICH WAS 170% OF NORMAL. CONVECTION ALREADY FIRING OVER NORTHEAST IDAHO AND WAS MOVING NORTHEAST INTO SOUTHWEST MONTANA. LOOKS LIKE THE CONVECTION MAY CLIP THE FAR WEST AND NORTHWEST ZONES LATER THIS MORNING. THE ACARS SOUNDING ALSO SHOWED A VERY DIFFERENT ATMOSPHERIC PROFILE THEN THE MODELS WERE PROJECTING. WINDS ALOFT WERE WEST TO NORTHWEST THROUGH 700MB WITH SPEEDS OF 15-25 KTS. THE MODELS WERE QUITE A BIT WEAKER AND MORE SOUTHERLY. VWP CONFIRMED THE ACARS SOUNDING. THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO WARM UP TODAY WITH A WESTERLY FLOW ALOFT. KEPT HIGHS IN PLACE CENTRAL AND WESTERN ZONES. LOWERED TEMPERATURES A BIT OVER THE EAST TODAY WITH A MORNING LAYER OF CLOUDS IN PLACE. CAPES SHOULD BE TALL AND SKINNY ONCE HIGHS FOR THE DAY HAVE BEEN MET. CAPE VALUES PROJECTED NEAR 1000 J/KG THIS AFTERNOON WITH INCREASING SHEAR. STORMS LOOKS TO HAVE MORE ORGANIZATION TO THEM TODAY COMPARED TO THE LAST FEW DAYS. WOULD STILL EXPECT STORMS TO FIRE OFF THE TERRAIN THIS AFTERNOON AND DRIFT EAST TO NORTHEAST. LOW LEVEL DEWPOINTS RANGED FROM THE LOWER 50S CENTRAL AND WEST...TO LOWER 60S EAST. A BIT OF DRYING EXPECTED TODAY AS THE ATMOSPHERE MIXES OUT...ESPECIALLY GIVEN MORNING ACARS AND WVP PROFILE DATA. LOW LEVEL WINDS SHOULD TURN EASTERLY THIS AFTERNOON WITH UPPER ENERGY TO THE WEST. HIGHER DEWPOINTS AND PRECIPITABLE WATER AMOUNTS AROUND AN INCH WOULD SUPPORT POTENTIAL HEAVY RAIN. WILL KEEP MENTION OF GUSTY WINDS TOO AS TEMP/DEWPOINT SPREADS SHOULD BE AROUND 40 DEGREES THIS AFTERNOON. WILL HAVE TO WATCH SEVERE POTENTIAL OVER THE WEST TODAY AS THE STORMS SHOULD BE BETTER ORGANIZED. UPDATE ALREADY SENT. HUMPHREY .LONG TERM...VALID FOR MON...TUE...WED...THU...FRI... MODELS STILL NOT IN THE BEST AGREEMENT THROUGH THE EXTENDED. THEREFORE...CONFIDENCE NOT TOO HIGH WITH LARGE SCALE FEATURES LET ALONE DETAILS. GFS SLOWLY DRAGS A CLOSED LOW ACROSS SOUTHERN CANADA AND NORTHERN MONTANA EASTWARD INTO NORTH DAKOTA BY THURSDAY MORNING. THE ECMWF HAS THIS LOW AS WELL BUT HAS IT MORE OPEN AND PROGRESSIVE MOVING ACROSS THE CANADIAN BORDER BEFORE HEADING SOUTH INTO MINNESOTA BY FRIDAY MORNING. IN EITHER CASE...HEIGHTS AND THICKNESSES LOWER MONDAY INTO TUESDAY RESULTING IN SOMEWHAT COOLER TEMPERATURES. BULK OF THE ENERGY WITH BOTH CASES LOOK TO BE ACROSS OUR NORTHERN AND NORTHEASTERN ZONES FOR TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY. BEYOND WEDNESDAY...SPLIT FLOW WITH WEAK DISTURBANCES LOOKS TO DOMINATE THE UPPER PATTERN. WILL CONTINUE WITH ISOLATED STORM CHANCES THROUGHOUT THE WEEK. BEST CHANCES WILL BE MONDAY AND TUESDAY IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE ABOVE MENTIONED LOW. TEMPERATURES LOOK TO BE AT OR SLIGHTLY BELOW NORMAL THROUGH MOST OF THE PERIOD. HOOLEY && .AVIATION... THUNDERSTORM CHANCES WILL INCREASE THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING AS A DISTURBANCE MOVES ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA. THE STORMS WILL MOVE INTO KLVM FIRST THIS AFTERNOON...THEN DRIFT TOWARD KBIL THIS EVENING. HEAVY RAIN AND WIND GUSTS TO 50 MPH WILL BE POSSIBLE WITH THE THUNDERSTORMS. VFR CONDITIONS WILL PREVAIL THROUGHOUT THE DAY WITH MVFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED NEAR THUNDERSTORMS. HUMPHREY && .PRELIMINARY POINT TEMP/POPS... TDY SUN MON TUE WED THU FRI ------------------------------------------------------- BIL 095 068/089 060/083 055/084 055/089 055/084 057/085 2/T 42/T 42/T 21/U 22/T 11/U 11/U LVM 090 052/088 050/084 045/085 045/089 045/085 046/086 5/T 53/T 52/T 11/U 22/T 11/B 11/B HDN 096 066/091 059/085 055/086 055/092 055/087 055/087 2/T 43/T 42/T 21/B 22/T 11/U 11/U MLS 093 070/093 062/084 057/085 057/091 057/088 059/088 2/T 44/T 42/T 21/B 12/T 11/U 11/U 4BQ 094 066/091 061/083 056/084 056/092 056/089 055/086 3/T 44/T 43/T 21/U 11/U 21/U 11/U BHK 091 068/089 060/084 055/085 055/088 055/086 056/087 3/T 44/T 43/T 21/U 12/T 21/U 11/U SHR 094 063/090 055/083 051/084 051/089 051/085 050/083 2/T 44/T 42/T 21/B 22/T 11/B 21/B && .BYZ WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... MT...NONE. WY...NONE. && $$ WEATHER.GOV/BILLINGS
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS HOUSTON/GALVESTON TX
1007 AM CDT SAT AUG 9 2008 .DISCUSSION... MOISTURE RIDGE DRAPED OVER THE SABINE RIVER REGION JUST LIKE YESTERDAY. UPPER LEVEL STREAMLINES INDICATE DIFFLUENT FLOW OVER NORTHERN GULF AND LA/TX COASTAL SECTIONS. WEAK LOW LEVEL BUT DIFFUSE BOUNDARY NOTED OVER FAR EASTERN ZONES AND INTO SABINE. MOSAIC RADAR AND SATELLITE LOOPS CONTINUE TO INDICATE SCATTERED SHRA AND ISOLATED TSRA OVER MOISTURE RIDGE. CURRENT FORECAST PACKAGE ON TRACK. 37 && MARINE... EXPECTING THE FEW SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS OVER THE EASTERN COASTAL WATERS TO DISSIPATE THIS MORNING. WILL NEED TO KEEP AN EYE ON STORMS NORTH OF THE LIVINGSTON AREA IN THE EVENT THAT THEY MAKE IT INTO THE ICW/NEARSHORE MID AFTERNOON. LIGHT WINDS THIS MORNING WILL PICK UP AS DAYTIME HEATING DEVELOPS INLAND. 45 && .AVIATION... DEVELOPING MVFR CLOUD DECK 1600-2800 SHOULD THIN OUT AS HEATING CONTINUES BY 18Z. CRP/ACARS SOUNDING SUPPORT THE LIKELIHOOD OF CAP HOLDING OVER THE CLL-IAH-LBX TERMINALS LOOKING BETTER. MOIST AXIS TO THE EAST OF THE TERMINALS TO NEAR LA BORDER. STORM CLUSTER NEAR LFK SHOULD SLOWLY MOVE SOUTH. POSSIBLY AS IT GETS FARTHER SOUTH IT COULD THROW OUT AN OUTFLOW THAT WOULD INTERACT WITH SEABREEZE BUT CONFIDENCE IS LOW ENOUGH WILL LIKELY ONLY MENTION VCTS AT IAH AT THE BEST FOR THE 21-23Z PERIOD. WINDS LESSEN THIS EVENING AND OTHER THAN CIRRUS SHOULD BE A VFR NIGHT. 45 && PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 344 AM CDT SAT AUG 9 2008/ DISCUSSION... SCATTERED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS BEGINNING TO DEVELOP JUST OFF THE COAST ALONG AN OLD OUTFLOW BOUNDARY/WEAK FRONT THAT EXTENDS FROM NEAR LIVINGSTON TO WINNIE AND THEN OFFSHORE. THE SHOWERS ARE NOT SHOWING MUCH MOVEMENT...MAYBE A SLOW DRIFT TO THE NORTHEAST. MOISTURE LEVELS REMAIN AROUND 2.0 INCHES AND WITH A FEW RESIDUAL BOUNDARIES AND DAYTIME HEATING...FEEL SCATTERED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS WILL AGAIN DEVELOP...MAINLY OVER THE EASTERN HALF OF THE REGION. FORECAST SOUNDINGS AGAIN SHOW AN INVERTED V SIGNATURE SO A FEW OF THE STRONGER STORMS COULD PRODUCE GUSTY WINDS. CONDITIONS DON`T CHANGE MUCH ON SUNDAY AND WILL AGAIN CARRY PRECIP FOR THE EASTERN HALF OF THE CWA. WEAK RIDGING BUILDS INTO THE REGION EARLY NEXT WEEK BUT MOISTURE LEVELS REMAIN HIGH. CAN`T REALLY FIND MUCH OF A SURFACE TRIGGER SO WILL CARRY SLIGHT CHANCE THROUGH TUESDAY. THINGS GET MORE COMPLICATED MID-WEEK AS THE ECMWF AND CAN CONTINUE TO BRING A LARGE SWATH OF PRECIP THROUGH THE CWA WEDNESDAY. THE GFS CONTINUES TO REMAIN DRY BUT THE OVERALL 500 MB PATTERN BETWEEN MODELS ARE IN GOOD AGREEMENT. LOWERING HEIGHTS COUPLED WITH HIGH PW AIR FAVOR PRECIP DEVELOPMENT SO WILL RAISE POPS FOR WEDNESDAY ESPECIALLY OVER THE NORTH. MOISTURE LEVELS DROP OVER THE LATTER HALF OF THE WEEK AND WILL PULL POPS FOR THU/FRI. ANOTHER UPPER LEVEL TROUGH AND INCREASING MOISTURE SHOULD YIELD SOME SHOWERS FOR NEXT SATURDAY...SO WILL INTRODUCE POPS FOR NEXT WEEKEND. 43 && .HGX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES... TX...NONE. GM...NONE. && $$